Fractals of Change
Fractals of Change explores the repeating patterns that shape human behavior, leadership, and organizational life. Hosted by transformation executive and coach Mary Schaub, the show blends psychology, systems thinking, and lived executive experience to examine how change really happens—inside people, teams, and entire enterprises.
Through solo reflections and conversations with thinkers, researchers, executives, and creators, the podcast uncovers the emotional, relational, and structural dynamics that influence identity, culture, and leadership.
Designed for anyone navigating transition or leading through complexity, Fractals of Change offers grounded insight into the deeper architecture of growth and transformation.
Episodes
20 episodes
The Unseen: Jerome Elam (Part 2)
What happens when the victims no one talks about begin to speak?In Part 2 of this raw and revealing conversation, Mary Schaub continues her dialogue with Jerome Elam—President and CEO of the Trafficking in America Task Force,...
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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27:34
The Unbreakable: Jerome Elam (Part 1)
"They say the truth will set you free. But first, it will break you open."In this deeply moving episode, Mary speaks with Jerome Elam—USMC vet, child trafficking survivor, and CEO of America's Trafficking in Americ...
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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44:22
Audience Share: Nature
In this heartfelt follow-up to "The Well-Gardened Self," Mary reads and reflects on powerful listener stories about how nature has supported their personal transformations. From fire escape herb gardens to grief walks through the woods, these s...
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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8:45
The Well-Gardened Self
What if the key to navigating chaos isn’t more control—but more connection to nature?In this episode, Mary explores how the natural world—gardening, birdwatching, even groundhogs—can heal us, grow us, and guide us through personal, organ...
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Season 1
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Episode 17
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18:38
Rewrite Your Story: Penelope Cottrell & Ria Glenn DeMay
In this engaging conversation, Mary Schaub speaks with Penny Cottrell and Ria Glenn DeMay about their journey from working in law and education to creating the Rewrite Workshops, a platform designed to help individuals explore their personal na...
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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1:00:21
Audience Share: Ancient Practices for a Modern World
In this episode, host Mary Schaub reads listener's experiences by limiting social media, trying Qi Gong, and using psychedelics. Key Takeaways💡 Navigating change can lead to greater meaning and purpose.
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Season 1
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Episode 15
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11:20
Navigating Life with Ancient Wisdom
In this episode, host Mary Schaub explores what it means to be a peaceful warrior in chaotic times, drawing on ancient Eastern philosophies—specifically Taoism and Buddhism—to navigate the overwhelming pace and uncertainty of modern li...
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Season 1
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Episode 14
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39:19
Grief Into Purpose: Matthew Fischer
In this conversation, Matt shares his journey of coping with the loss of his son and his mission to help other families facing similar struggles. The discussion covers the signs of addiction, the role of parents, the impact of grief, and the im...
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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46:34
Audience Share: Overwhelming Feelings
In this episode, host Mary Schaub shares listeners' strategies for managing overwhelming emotions, from cocooning to grounding techniques, while reflecting on her rejuvenating trip to Lisbon and the importance of kindness in everyday interactio...
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Season 1
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Episode 12
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12:49
Mindset Shifts for Overwhelm
In this episode, Mary Schaub discusses the feelings of overwhelm that many experience in today's rapidly changing world. She shares her personal struggles with overwhelm and explores three mindset shifts to cope with these feelings: sublimation...
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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28:59
Reclaiming Your Creative Voice: Deborah Zelasny
In this episode, Mary engages in a heartfelt conversation with Deborah Zelasny, a writer and content creator. They explore their long-standing friendship, the challenges of teenage years, the impact of influential teachers, and the journey of s...
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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50:08
Audience Share: Adaptability
In this episode, listeners write in to tell their personal stories about why they struggle to deal with even small unexpected changes. In this introspective episode, host Mary Schaub delves into the deep-rooted origins of our emotional response...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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16:34
Awesome Goodness: Rob Kenney
In this conversation, Mary Schaub interviews Rob Kenney, the creator of the popular YouTube channel 'Dad How Do I'. Rob shares his journey from being an introverted sales professional to becoming an internet dad figure for millions. He discusse...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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41:18
Embracing Uncertainty
In this conversation, Mary Schaub explores the theme of uncertainty in today's world, emphasizing the importance of self-discovery and inner work. She discusses the challenges of navigating change and the necessity of embracing equanimity to fo...
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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12:10
Trauma to Transformation: Amy Elizabeth Fox
Mobius Executive Leadership CEO Amy Elizabeth Fox discusses how addressing trauma and fostering personal growth creates more effective business leaders and healthier corporate cultures. Learn how combining psychological insights with leadership...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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48:24
Tolerating the Unexpected
A deeply personal discussion of change management, self-discovery, and transforming unexpected challenges into opportunities for growth. The episode delves into personal change appetite, mindset flexibility, and the power of embracing life's un...
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Season 1
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Episode 5
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13:56
Life Pivots: Suzanne Roske
In this conversation, Mary Schaub interviews Suzanne Roske, founder and CEO of Vamonos Executive Coaching, discussing her journey of personal transformation, the writing of her book, and the importance of self-discovery. They explore themes of ...
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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52:43
Breaking Free
Change isn’t always sparked by a single life-altering event—it’s often a series of thousands of mini catalysts shaping us over time. In this episode, we explore the journey of self-discovery, the process of unlearning societal conditio...
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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26:03
Preposterously Audacious: Dr. Ralph H. Groce III
In this conversation, Dr. Ralph H. Gross III, President, COO and author of We Have Nothing to Lose: A Dark Optimist's Call to Action, shares his journey from a bright child in Pittsburgh to a successful leader and author. He discusses the...
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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46:57
